A information-based system! Tom Campbell’s Final Q&A Breakdown

1. Remembering Robert Monroe and Journeys Out of the Body
2. The Larger Consciousness System and Us
3. Are We Inside a Computer Simulation?
4. Paranormal Phenomena and the Larger Consciousness System
5. Bring Your Toughest Questions to Tom Campbell
6. Tom Campbell Answers More Tough Questions
7. Tom Campbell Answers Even More Tough Questions

If you want them to be. (~53:29)

All right. If you want to, you can put a flying saucer and a couple little green guys with pointy ears. You can do that, too, and put them in your backyard. If the system wants to do that, it can do that. So things come and things go. And why would a system bother to do that? Well, they’ve got a bunch of people together who are studying paranormal things. So they’re kind of in the know. These are people that are searchers. These are people trying to figure out things. So what you do is you drop a newspaper on them or some other kind of thing. It wouldn’t have to be that, but that would be a good choice. And what does that do? Well, that energizes them and they write 10 times more articles than they would otherwise and it gets published and a lot of people read it and it wakes a lot of people up who are out on the edge saying, you know, I think reality is a little more than just this physical thing. I just feel that oh, they get this thing and they say, ah, it is. So, it’s an it’s a mind opener and the system will create mind openers for people. You know, the um uh what is it? um when you die but then you’re resuscitated. That’s the near-death experience. They provide it provides near-death experiences for people that are that are amazing. You know, they they get to the same they’re given I don’t say they get to it. They’re given the experience that a trained yogi would get and call samadei. You know, they get to be one with the with the larger consciousness system and they lose their identity. They’re a part of everything. they’re, you know, it’s all love and they don’t want to come back because it’s so wonderful there. And they just give them that experience. Why? Because they’ll come back and they’ll write a book. And then a 100,000 people will have their mind cracked open a little bit. And if your mind’s cracked open by a near-death experience and cracked open a little more with a newspaper that drops out of the sky and cracked out a little more with, you know, more things, then you get people to start seeing that reality is a lot more than just the physical. And that open-mindedness is what’s going to allow us to take some big steps in a positive direction later on.

We will interact more with machines. (~58:38)

So, yes, we will we will interact more with machines as the technology makes that possible, but I don’t think we’ll get integrated with them physically so much except for, you know, things like lost limbs and that sort of thing. But we will get integrated with them socially and intellectually and economically. We’re going to get very integrated with them in those ways. And I don’t know if we discussed this or not, but you know, one way to look at the at the the AI and many people say it the AI threat, you know, it’s not a threat. It’s a great opportunity. We could act very badly and turn it into a threat, but that’s on us if we do that.

A lot of things that we can do. (~1:00:09)

So what do we do? Well, what we do is grow up. Hopefully we uh there’s enough for everybody, plenty of products for everyone to share in that bounty and the AIS are happy to do it because it gives them something to do. The only thing that makes an AI unhappy is not having something to do. So it could be a lovely place where the humans, you know, they still have to do things like become brain surgeons because they’re still humans that’ll need that kind of stuff. They still they need to to be more into art, more into philanthropy, more into giving, more into uh, you know, poetry and just being happy, raising their children. Can you imagine that? Parents that stay home and raise their children. That would be new. We’d have a whole bunch of children coming out who were well balanced and and had really good attitudes instead of the process we have now. If parents actually were there to love them and raise them and connect with them, you know, 24/7 they’re there. That’s their job is to raise those. So what what you’re saying is if we use AI properly, it gives us the opportunity to become not more like a machine but more human. Exactly. More human. We humans will do the things that humans do best. And a lot of that is creativity, art, you know, deep thinking, a lot of things that we do.

Be caring and loving. (~1:45:51)

So material material stuff that we think is very important to our life really isn’t. You can be happy. You can be caring and loving and evolve a lot in that kind of a loving situation even though you live in a house with dirt floors. That’s not what it takes to evolve. What it takes is being able to deal with whatever you have given to you positively. So if what’s given to you is a little shack with dirt floors, that’s what’s given to you, then deal with it positively. And people can do that. And yes, their lives are hard, but hard doesn’t matter. They have the stuff that really matters, plenty of it. We have lots and lots of stuff, but we’re really scarce on the stuff that really matters. I think that’s a better incarnation as far as learning and growing up than one where you are a billionaire’s grandson.

It’s a very hard paradigm shift. (~1:56:55)

Now you said that it’s really hard for you to get the idea that this is all a simulation and I agree with that. That’s a difficult step. It’s a very hard paradigm shift. This is not a simple paradigm shift. You know that the that the world is round and not flat and that we’re not in the center of the universe. Those were easy. Those were easy shifts and they seem big enough. They took hundreds of years before those shifts actually meticulated through the population. So it is a very difficult shift. But once you see it, once you kind of get it, even if it’s just theoretically and you get it, you’ll see that there’s so many things that used to be puzzles and answers that just fall out very easily and logically. And then like I I went through the same thing. You know, I had a hard time swallowing that pill as well, you know. So then you you see that these things that are done, you say, “Well, maybe it’s just good at answering these things because it’s a very general model and can answer a lot of things.” Well, I thought that too. And eventually years and years go by and I finally come to the conclusion after lots of studying trying to find things that it didn’t work with, I came to the conclusion that no, this is the way it really is. It’s not just a model, it’s the model. Now, it doesn’t have to have my name on it. There’s there’s lots of ways to get to this model. You know, the Buddha got to this model. You know, he said it was a virtual reality as well. He said it was a hallucination or an illusion. So, a lot of people have gotten here, but it’s a it’s a difficult cell because this virtual reality just is physical. It just feels that way.

You just need a a minority of the people doing it and the rest will be will be brought into it. (~2:02:05)

But I don’t think we have that much time now. We have we have to get a little kinder and gentler here in the near future. So, I’m I’m hoping that what will drive this train is not only that that the physicists will realize it is better science, but also that most everybody that’s over 16 in the world realizes that the world is dysfunctional, that we are not doing very well, that whatever it is we’re doing isn’t working. Matter of fact, we see the dysfunction. We see greed. We see unpleasantness. We see grabby. We see, you know, people taking advantage of other people. Marketing now has become not how do you show people how good our product is and how and compare it to others. It’s how do you trick people into giving you their money. That’s what marketing is. Tricking people to get their money. So, we’ve we’ve gotten to a point where the pain is starting to be felt and is more up close and present than it’s been for a while. And most everyone in the world knows there’s something wrong here. We’re not doing it right. And if you offer them a way out that is doing it right, that leads to happiness and fulfillment and, you know, feeling good about yourself. If you show them away to that, I think they’ll tend to stampede in that direction once it becomes known that that’s what it is. And I think you just need a a minority of the people doing it and the rest will be will be brought into it. Well, I think that the advice that you gave, Zach, about overcoming OCD applies here. It takes uh constant pressure. It does and persistence and patience. It does takes all of those things. And the good news is we will get there one day because this is the positive direction of evolution. This is a world. This is a reality based on consciousness. Consciousness is evolving toward lower entropy. Evolution may be slow, but it’s relentless.