Unlocking Consciousness: Tom Campbell Tackles More Challenging Questions

1. Remembering Robert Monroe and Journeys Out of the Body
2. The Larger Consciousness System and Us
3. Are We Inside a Computer Simulation?
4. Paranormal Phenomena and the Larger Consciousness System
5. Bring Your Toughest Questions to Tom Campbell
6. Tom Campbell Answers More Tough Questions
7. Tom Campbell Answers Even More Tough Questions

Think positively. (~5:24)

So, fear will interfere with your ability to make good choices. You make choices in fear, most of the time they’re going to be bad choices. Now, that doesn’t mean that all your choices are going to be terrible. It just means they’re going to be biased a little bit toward the negative. Instead of thinking in terms of the positive, you’re thinking in terms of the negative. How do I prevent something from happening rather than how do I live a healthy, prosperous life? That’s thinking positively. How do I avoid getting sick? That’s thinking negatively. But if you think positively, almost always you’ll find that positive things happen,

You make your own luck. (~14:09)

Well, I thought it was fascinating that you said worrying helps increase the probability of what you’re worrying about actually happening. It reminds me of a statement that was told to me a long time ago. When I first came to California, I had friends who said to me, worry is prayer for what you don’t want. That’s very accurate, it is. The way the system renders the future is by taking a random draw from a probability distribution of the possibilities. You can modify those probabilities, and you modify them with your intent. And this is not an intellectual intent, that’s very weak, but this is intent at the being level. That’s an intent at the intuitive level, and it depends on how much energy you put into that intent. When people are upset and frightened, they put a lot of energy into that intent, and therefore they’re more successful at creating what they don’t want than they are creating what they do want. Because what they don’t want causes more angst, more energy, more force, because it frightens them. And they get that energy out of that fear. So it’s just the way reality works is that you modify the probabilities of what will happen in the future with your intention. So if you’re very positive, if you have an attitude of, I never get sick, I haven’t been sick for 10 years, I never catch a cold, I never get sick, nothing ever happens to me like that. And you really feel that, there’s a very good probability that that will be the truth. You will never get sick. There’s lots of people who have that as their life. They don’t get ill. It’s extremely rare. And even if they’re in a party or a group and 90% of the people get ill, they’re one of the ones that don’t. And they just seem to be very resistive, and people look at them and say, wow, you’re really lucky. Well, you make your own luck.

You go around and around and around again because learning is cumulative. (~1:26:45)

But to be clear, you do accept the existence of reincarnation. Oh, absolutely. It’s necessary. And I like to point out to people that I didn’t include reincarnation and I call it experience packets rather than reincarnation because I don’t like to use words that are attached to other philosophies, particularly religious philosophies because there’s the lovers and the haters of all of those. And to avoid that bias, I try to make up my own terms, these different experience packets are absolutely logically required by the logic of the model of the system. We’re here to change who we are, to grow up, become love, get rid of our self-centeredness, get rid of our ego and our beliefs, our fear. So, that’s what we’re here for. And that’s hard to change who you are, to get rid of a fear. And you do that through experience. It takes a lot of experience. And if you only had one shot, this whole model would collapse because it wouldn’t work. It just wouldn’t work. So, it’s a logical necessity of my model that you go around and around and around again because learning is cumulative

You have to learn in order to play the game better. (~1:29:25)

Reincarnation is absolutely necessary. Otherwise, the system would never evolve. It would be a one-shot system. Who’s going to play a video game? The first time your character dies, you’re out of the game. You’re going to pay $30 to get in that game. In the first ten seconds, you get killed by… Reincarnation is definitely necessary in video games. Yeah, absolutely. Otherwise, you never have the opportunity to learn the things. You have to learn in order to play the game better. Well, that’s the same here as well. 

Get answers suited for you. (~1:42:09)

And you can ask questions of the Larger Consciousness System. But you probably won’t understand the answers because you don’t have enough experience and understanding and, you know, you still have beliefs. You’re still limited. So though you can ask the source, and the source will try to tell you, but it has to talk to you in your own terms. When you play with a three-year-old, you don’t talk to them about, you know, what? Relativistic issues in quantum physics. You talk to them at their level. Well, the LCS does the same with us. It talks to us at our level. Otherwise, we can’t understand it. It doesn’t mean anything to us. So you’re always limited by your own capacity. How do you enlarge that capacity? You get rid of your fear. When you get rid of your fear, you get rid of your ego. You get rid of your beliefs. And now you’re just open. And when you’re open, you can get a whole lot more information.So that’s how you optimise yourself to learn as much as you can learn. You have to become love. Get rid of your fear

Our language has evolved to describe the physical world. (~1:48:53)

you get information from the Larger Conscious System. You interpret that information based on what’s inside of you, in your experience. Now, we tend to get that information and interpret it in terms of things that are familiar with us. So if we interact with a bean and we have a conversation with it, we don’t interpret it as a rock or a fence post, or a three-headed chicken, because none of those things are in our experience. So we interpret it as kind of human-like. It’s got a head, and it’s got a mouth, and it’s got arms and body, and maybe it’s in a hood or a robe, so it’s human-esque, because in our minds, that’s what you communicate to. You don’t talk to dogs or horses, you talk to other humans. So we take that information that’s coming, and we see a human. And if we, if to us it’s okay that it’s just nebulous, just human-like, then it probably has a robe and a hood, and we don’t get details because the details aren’t really necessary. If we want details, then we can. We can say it’s male, it’s female, it wears these kind of clothes, we can get all the eye colour, you get all the detail you want, but that’s you putting metaphors on top of the data you get, so that you can process it in your own mind, and your own mind, I could say your limited free will awareness mind, can only process stuff that it knows about. So when you get things that you can’t interpret, you can’t even make a rough approximation of it, those are the things that you say, oh I don’t know, I can’t really explain it, but this is how it felt. That means that you got information, but you couldn’t say it was a dog, you couldn’t say it was a human, you couldn’t say, you didn’t really know, because it didn’t really fit any of those things very well, because you’ve got these various pigeon holes in your memory, this is a dog pigeon hole and a human and a chicken and all these other things, and it doesn’t fit any of them. So that’s those things you come back and you say, I don’t really understand what happened, but here was the gist of it, because what happened was something you couldn’t turn into something out of your memory so that you could put it in a language so that you could explain it to yourself and to other people. Our language has evolved to describe the physical world. Well, you’ve got all this language that’s very precise about describing the physical world. Now you’re going out into the non-physical and having experiences, and you have to convert it back into language so that you can think about it in rational terms. We need language for the thinking process. Otherwise thoughts are just kind of jumbled. You need to have the thought that’s the subject and the thought that’s the verb. You need to put your thoughts in a way that is rational to you and that you can use them. Well, you only have a language that was designed to describe physical things, and sometimes emotional things. It’s not just physical things, but it’s things you’re familiar with. So you try to, so that’s, you’re limited in this. So all right, so now you get something, and it was big and it was mighty and it was powerful and it was unpredictable and chaotic, and what do you turn that into? A being of fire. A being of fire with red eyes, light beaming out of their eyes, because that light beaming out of their eyes is an image of power and whatever. So you create something because that’s your closest approximation to what you experienced. It doesn’t mean that being exists as a being of fire with light beams coming out of his eyes. That’s your, you put that together, because you saw that in a movie someplace and it was impressive. So to you, that’s the symbol, that’s the metaphor for power, strength, and maybe chaos. If it wasn’t chaos, then it wouldn’t be a being of fire, it would be a beautiful person with flowing long hair and something else. So you turn things into what makes sense. Now, when you do that, people tend to believe that what they come up with, their metaphors for describing things, are facts. Oh, I saw a being of fire. Yeah. Did you really see a being of fire? Yes, I saw it. There it was. I saw its eyes, I saw its skin, I saw the flames. I saw it. It was just as clear as could be. And its name was something. And it told me that if we all don’t do this or that and the other, we’re all going to be in deep trouble. So we need to do that. Well, pretty soon that becomes a deity. And now we’ve got a statue. And so on. So this is how most of that comes about. It’s stuff that is real information. The information coming is not giving you something false. But your inability to accurately take that information and express it with a language that’s meant to only explain a very small set of things. And this is outside of that set. So you make stuff up. That’s your best guess at what it was like. And as you describe it, it’s the first time you describe it to the first person, it’s kind of amorphous. And then the next person, it gets a little tighter. And the next person, pretty soon, you’re describing it down to the scales on its arm. Because the more you think about it, the more you build in the detail. And so that’s how a lot of that works that we see these beings. It’s our way of expressing what we’ve experienced. The experience is real. It’s not that this was a hallucination. For the most part, people are not lying about the things that they get out of consciousness and other things. They’re just having trouble explaining it. So they do the best they can to explain it. And it comes out in metaphors, it comes out in expressions out of their own past, and out of their own understanding, and out of their own fears. And that’s what you end up getting. And now, once that person said that, oh, there’s this being, and it was really cool, and I got a lot of information. Well, I’d like to talk to them too. So now they go out expecting this thing of fire and whatever. And sure enough, there it is. They see one too. So now lots of people do that. Now this thing is well known and has these characteristics. And so it becomes part of the lore that these things exist. But mostly it’s us. We create them not out of whole cloth. We create them out of some information. And we’re doing the best we can to deal with it. Now the way that to deal with it that’s more profitable than that is to just realise that I don’t know. And not try to paint it into a picture that fits our physical reality.

For another example of someone who has an OBE and interprets what they see to match what they know see my review of Kurt Leland’s book Otherwhere.